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    August 7, 2009
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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute ---www.ncicap.org--- chris: next on "special report" the government is injecting $2 billion into the cash for clunkers program, anticipating gloomy jobs numbers, the white house insists the president's economic plan is on track. the nation's first hispanic supreme court nominee sails through confirmation in the senate, and if congress creates government-run health insurance, should lawmakers have to use it? we report. you decide. all that, plus the fox all-stars. "special report" starts now. cheer clear chris: welcome to washington. i'm chris wallace in for bret baier.
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the obama administration's cash for clunkers program is looking for a $2 billion refill. the senate is expected to vote before it goes on august recess whether to approve more money for rebates that have encouraged tens of thousands of people to trade in their own gas guzzlers for new more fuel efficient cars. white house correspondent wendell goler is live with an update. good evening, wendell. >> chris, this legislation passed by a 3-1 margin in the house an harry reid is confident he has the votes to pass it in the senate but lawmakers are spending hours debating amendments they know will be rejected just to get their objections on the record before they go home for the august break. as of yesterday, the clunkers program had burned through three-quarters of the billion dollars congress initially appropriated, suggesting the original $4 billion authorization the house wanted was a closer estimate of the program's appeal and its cost. gp was the big winner with 17.8 p% of the cash for clunkers car sales.
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>> it has been a madhouse, people coming in with their clunkers wanting to trade them in. >> the big 3 accounted for 45% of the sales, which is their normal market share. still, four of the five top selling new cars are sold by foreign manufacturers. 60% of the foreign cars were actually built in this country. in fact, hyundai's montgomery, alabama plant is back to a five-day work week after being on a four-day week since october, and ford is considering a production increase. the senate considered a handful of amendments. >> the program is good but should be appropriately targeted to americans with modest incomes. >> iowa senator tom harkin wanted income limits. john mccain didn't like adding to the deficit. >> we're spending $3 billion to subsidize car purchases from some of them from automotive companies that we own. >> and new hampshire republican judd gregg protested the use of money intended for energy
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efficiency. >> this is the ultimate bait and switch. >> but michigan democrat debbie stabenow wasn't buying any of it. >> my colleagues on the other side of the aisle who are constantly bashing the recovery package for not delivering immediate results should be jumping for joy. >> stabenow noted that any of the amendments would force a suspension of the clunkers program since it would mean the senate had passed a different version of the bill than the house and the house has adjourned for the month, it is a safe bet that sometime later this evening, the senate will do the same and the clunkers money will keep flowing. chris: wendell goler reporting from the white house, thank you. the white house tried to get out ahead of and soften the blow from friday's anticipated dismal jobs numbers. senior white house correspondent major garrett reports that the president's economic team is sticking with its story -- the obama plan is working. >> one of the president's top economic advisors rejected criticism of the stimulus as an economic failure calling it just what the doctor ordered.
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>> suppose that you go to your doctor for a strept throat and he or she provides an antibiotic. sometime after you get the prescription and maybe after you have taken the first pill, your fever spikes. do you decide that the medicine was useless? do you conclude that the antibiotic caused your infection to get worse? surely not. hours later, the white house predicted that unemployment would exceed 10%, this coming a day before the labor department is expected to report more than 300,000 jobs lost in july. before the president signed the stimulus, romer and other economic advisors provided that the $787 billion jolt would keep unemployment numbers from rising above 8%. romer said today things were worse than expected. >> the deterioration of the market shows how crew crucial it was that we take actions when we d >> that contrasts with the budge net february where the
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budget was rosier than private economists. romer said then they knew more about future policy and its likely benefits. >> we have a lot of inside information. we knew what the plan was we were going to put in place. i think that was something i was trying to anticipate. >> administration officials continue to tout stimulus programs but it has caused the deficit to go up to $2 trillion complicating healthcare reform and the estimated $1 trillion tag. a new quinnipiack poll shows the president's approval rating has fallent o 50%, down 7 points in one mount and disapproval rate is 42%, up nine points in a month. independents are now evenly divided. 45% approving and disapproving of mr. obama's performance. even as she defended the stimulus, romer left the door open to another one next year. >> we're just going to watch. we think we have the right medicine in place a good doctor always monitors.
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>> on another economic front, the white house is considering a massive redo of the mortgage giant fannie mae and freddie mac, government-backed mortgage giants, currently underwriting $5 trillion in mortgages, many of them underwater. the idea is to siphon hundreds of billions of dollars of toxic assets, put them in a bad bank and reintroduce them with clean balance sheets putting them back in the mortgage business with tighter regulations and rules. the white house says it's under consideration but no final decisions have been made. chris. chris: major, thanks. retailers are reporting sluggish sales for july. mall-based chains continue to be the hardest hit. macy's, j.c. penney and be aer abercrombie and fitsch all have double digit sales drops. one expert says consumers are stressed and depressed. stocks were also depressed today. the dow lost 24 3/4, and the s&p 500 fell 5, and the nasdaq
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dropped almost 20. the number of people on food stamps has passed 34 million for the first time, and enrollment surged 2% in may to reach 34.4 million people. it was the sixth month in a row in new benefit was set. the average benefit was $133.65. the next time the supreme court convenes, it will for the first time have an hispanic justice. sonya vote sonia sotomayor easily made it through the senate today. shannon bream has the story from capitol hill. >> if there are two words that sum up this nomination, it is these -- it's time. >> emphasizing her diversity in both background and professional experience, democrats said today sonia sotomayor will be a brilliant supreme court justice, and they didn't shy away from something that bothers conservatives most, the allegation that she will go beyond the text of the constitution to arrive at her decision. >> a nominee must give light
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and meaning to the principles of the constitution, equality before the law, due process, freedom of conscience, individual responsibility and the expansion of opportunity. >> republicans say they have real concerns about justice how far sotomayor may take that concept. >> i hope that she sees the constitution, both the words and its meaning as something that she must follow rather than something she can change at will. >> despite those reservations and others involving gun rights, international law and personal biased, nine republican senators crossed the aisle to vote in favor of sotomayor, bringing the total to 68 yeas and 31 nays, with robert byrd who as been very ill making it to the senate chamber for today's vote. senator ted kennedy was the only one absent. the two most recent justices were confirm the with all 100 senators present. justice samuel alito by a 58-42 margin and the chief justice, john roberts, by a
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vote of 78-22. republicans say they still aren't sure which version of sotomayor will show up on the bench, the one who crafted controversial speeches and articles or the one who deftly answered their questions in person. >> i hope she proves me wrong. >> late today, the president celebrated what could be the first of multiple supreme court nominations during his presidency. >> i'm filled with pride in this achievement, and great confidence that judge sotomayor will make an outstanding supreme court justice. >> judge sotomayor will officially be sworn in in two separate ceremonies saturday at the supreme court building. the first will be private for family members present and the second will be a lot more public, believed to be the very first time the television cameras will be allowed to cover a portion of the swearing in testimony of a brand new supreme court justice. chris. chris: and fox news will, of course, be covering that, shannon, thank you.
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alaska's attorney general tries to put p the brakes on the kinds of relentless ethics charges that allegedly threw sarah palin
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chris: house members are on vacation and their senate colleagues leave soon. waiting for them back home are some people very unhappy with the way the healthcare reform debate is going. well, today senate democrats got some high-level coaching on how to respond come meet with a new playbook. correspondent james rosen is following the action. >> in an hour-long closed-door session at the capitol, senior white house advisor david axelrod counsels senate democrats with how to contend with protestors at town hall meetings on healthcare reform and later suggested they are being coordinated. >> i think there is some evidence that there are some
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groups that are out promoting this, but i'm not going to disparage people. look, i believe in freedom of speech. we had an event in elkhart yesterday and i think the number of supporters down on the street far outweighed anybody who was protesting, so, you know, i'm not concerned about that." >> meeting in the lyndon b. johnson room, the lawmakers received spiral notebooks generated by a democratic leadership war room and reviewed video of democratic congressmen being confronted at town hall meetings in austin, texas last week by citizens angry over a dogged support for the healthcare plans. senate majority leader harry reid vowed not to be sabotaged by, quote, phony protestors, even as dick durbin, number two democrat, said he would scale back his town hall, and another senate democrat announced that the summer recess is fraught with political perils.
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>> there is no one bill in congress, and that puts, i think, the president gives him a greater challenge to explain his message. >> i know the president doesn't believe that not meeting this august goal for the finance committee imperils in any way healthcare reform. >> the senate finance committee, gang of six negotiators held one last meeting before august recess, including a conference call with state governors about costly plans to expand medicaid, the joint federal and state health plan that covers nearly 60 million low-income americans. >> they recognize the differences between the states, and that it is disproportionately a federal responsibility. it is really where is that balance that is the subject of the discussion. >> about an hour ago, the leader of the gang of six, max baucus of mon tan that -- montana said he hey gone too far by saying there was
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bipartisan support, and said they would have to come back and look at everything in the context of how we're going to pay for it. chris: james, thank you. one healthcare option that has drawn a lot of criticism is the concept of public government administered insurance. now a senator who knows a thing or two about healthcare says if it is good enough for the public, it ought to be good enough for congress. molly hennenberg tells us how that idea is going over. >> oklahoma republican senator and, doctor tom coburn strongly opposes a public option -- that is, a government-run health insurance plan. he says it will lead to rationing of care, so coburn has introduced an amendment saying if congress passes a public option, then all lawmakers would have to enroll, too. >> so that we feel the same effects of that plan as every other american that ends up in it. the data shows that 104 million americans will be end up in that plan. what is good for us ought to be good enough for everybody else. >> it brings to mind the old
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goose and gander adage but some democrats are crying foul, saying they don't like the coburn amendment because it suggests that the public option will be the only health insurance option and they say that premise is wrong. >> members of congress will very likely be in the same situation as every other american will be vis-a-vis the public option, i.e., they can choose it or not choose it, and so the idea that members of congress would be forced into it disrupts the whole notion that underlies it that this is a choice. >> other democrats, including senators kiss dodd, ted kennedy and barbara mcculski support coburn's amendment. they join most republicans and passed the amendment out of the senate health committee but that version ultimately will have to be merged with another bill, and political analysts say coburn's amendment may not survive. >> if i had to make a guess, i would say that they try to create a requirement to have a
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public plan with loopholes that would enable most senators to avoid the requirement. >> still, the idea seems to have support of president obama. >> you know, i would be happy to abide by the same benefits package. i will just be honest with you. i'm the president of the united states, so i have a doctor following me every minute. >> senator judd gregg was the only republican on the senate health committee to voted against the coburn amendment. coburn said gregg told him he wouldn't put anyone in a public plan, not his constituents or fellow senators so that's why senator gregg voted against it. in washington, molly hennenberg, fox news. chris: the centers for disease control and prevention say rapid tests for the h1n1 flu are wrong at least half the time. the c.d.c. says the test correctly confirms swine flu infections of 10% to 51% of the time. we will meet a congressman who
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isn't shying away from public criticism over healthcare reform, and we go on patrol with u.s. and iraqi troops, seararararararcharar
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crois this is a fox news alert a senior u.s. official says there is reason to believe high-ranking taliban leader vitala missoud was killed in a missile strike two days ago, believed to be possible for the assassination of the former pakistani prime minister benazir bhutto. earlier reports said that his wife was killed but that he was not at the compound. officials are awaiting d.n.a. tests. four chinese muslims who were held for 7 years at the guantanomo bay prison camp are now working on a golf course
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in bermuda. you may remember the men were transferred to bermuda back in june. they were hired at port royal golf course when some other workers quit. the uighurs are helping to prepare the course for a pga tournament in october. iraq's government says it is taking down the concrete walls erected to protect people from bomb attacks in baghdad. meanwhile, the u.s. has longing accused iran of smuggling explosives into iraq, a charge that iran denies. tonight, reporter david piper goes along with u.s. and iraqi troops on a patrol mission designed to find iranian smugglers and stop them. >> the vast marshlands of southern iraq bordering iran have become one of the key front lines in stopping the bombings in iraqi city and attacks on u.s. base bases. the u.s. security forces believe that the equipment to make roadside bombs are transported along here, along
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longley established smuggling routes. iraqi forces guard the borders by watchtowers but this area allows smugglers to pass over without being spotted. it is a dangerous place. smugglers often put up a fight if intercepted. at this watchtower, iraqi guards recently fought a pitched battle with a gang that was trying to force its way through. the u.s. border transition team backs up iraqi forces on the ground here, but even with its help, it is a difficult job. >> they have a few number of people here to secure their borders. it's very hard for them, very difficult to cover the full area. >> and the u.s. add size and support is invaluable, the iraqi border force. >> it is very useful to have the americans with us. they are sprorring us with their intelligence, and their equipment, especially night vision, which we will have soon. >> the u.s. military also helps in a more direct way, at the request of the iraqi military, are u.s. special forces are destroying some of the roads to force the
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smugglers to travel past established checkpoints. >> they have identified that this is an area of value and it will have a disrupting effect on illicit activities coming across the border. >> nothing beats troops on the ground, though. the joint forces conduct night patrols to intercept the smugglers. >> u.s. and iraqi troops have now fanned out and prepared to ambush, and now the long wait begins to see if they can intercept any smugglers. >> this time, no smugglers were apprehended but the discovery of a massive arms cache farther back from the border shows how crucial the work is to make iraq safer. david piper, fox news. chris: the obama administration's national security advisor says the u.s. hopes this week's visit to north korea by bill clinton will lead to other good things in relations between the two countries. mr. clinton brought back to the u.s. two
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american journalists imprisoned by north korea and he talked today about his successful mission to that communist nation. >> my job was to do one thing, which is was profoundly honored to do, as an american and as a father. i wanted those young women to be able to come home. chris: hilly clinton gets an unusual offer for her daughter, and the mistress of a former democratic presidential candidate appears in federal court to talk about pao@5
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>> and now the latest from the political cograpevine. john edwards former mistress appeared in a north carolina federal courthouse today as a grand jury investigates his political finances. rielle hunter arrived through a back ens trance carrying her young child whom edwards denies fathering. the former democratic senator and presidential candidate says his affair with hunter ended in 2006. that same year, his political action committee paid hunter's video production firm $100,000 and then another $14,000 in 2007. his p presidential campaign then paid his political action committee some $14,000 for what is list listed as a, quote, furniture purchase, knowingly converting money from a political action
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committee for personal use is a federal crime. edwards says he was unaware of the payments. alaska's attorney general is targeting bad faith ethics complaints like the one that sarah palin says led to her resignation. sullivan suggested targeting people who abuse the system for political reasons saying, quote, some state codes make knowingly false complaints, subject to both re reimbursement orders and criminal prosecution. sullivan proposes the state covers legal bills for public officials who are exonerated, and hillary clinton was asked during her visit to kenya today about a man's offer of 40 goats and 20 cows as dowry for her daughter chelsea's hand in marriage. the proposal came back in 2000 when the man wrote to then president bill clinton offering the animals in accordance with african tradition. mrs. clinton responded today, quote my daughter is her own
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person, very independent, so i will convey this very kind offer." however, chelsea clinton may already be taken. "the washington post" reports that despite the clinton camp's denials, persistent rumors say chelsea clinton and her investment banker boyfriend are planning a late-summer wedding in martha's vinyard. conservative activists vowing to keep up their fight against the president's healthcare reform plan by showing up at town hall meetings held by members of congress. democrats have accused the critics of organizing angry mobs. correspondent steve brown looks into the real story behind those town hall protestors. >> how is it going? >> it was a nice change for steve kagen, a town hall meeting talking with people who agree with his healthcare ideas. >> don't tell me that a government-run program don't work. it has worked for me perfect. >> and folks who disagree. >> it is not a talking point.
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>> that was tame compared to what he faced in the district earlier this week. >> we don't want the government taking away our rights. >> in a pair of public forums, cagen was -- kagen was up in front of constituents all over and democrats think it is a coordinated effort by republicans trying to kill healthcare reform. california senator barbara boxer suggested demonstrators she had seen on the internet were, perhaps, too well dressed. >> you in the media have to look at what is planned here. this is all planned to hurt our president. >> washington state congressman brian baird likened the rowdy tactics to that of nazi thugs, saying "what we're seeing here right now is close to brown shirt tactics.
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i mean that seriously." one caller to brian miller's d.c. office made a death threat against the north carolina democrat. today, it was civil. police were on hand, but the opposition was mild. >> i do not believe it is extremist and crazy because we have dissenting opinions. >> kagen says he will keep holding these forums. >> i like hearing from people. whether they disagree or not, i want to hear their point of view and learn something from them. >> one democratic operating here in wisconsin doesn't think much of fellow democrats complaining about these town hall uprisings, saying essentially the complaints boil down to they're better organized. it's not much of a complaint. chris. chris: steve brown reporting from wisconsin. thanks. another emotional issue for many people is immigration. the obama administration announced a plan today to overhaul the immigration detention system. the goal is to house suspected
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violators in fewer locations, closer to major cities with access to courts, attorneys, and medical care. the associated press reports employers are bringing far fewer foreigners to the u.s. to work. the a.p. says there have been fewer than 36,000 employer-sponsored green card applications if in the first eight months of this fiscal year, compared to almost 104,000 in 2008 and almost 23 a,000 in 2007. retired workers sometimes have a tough time making ent ends meet and that includes their tax bills. well, now one community in new england is giving seniors a way to work off their taxes. correspondent molly line has the story from maine. >> like many seniors, arlene and mert murchenson live off a fixed income. >> i have lived here all my life. >> they have a roughly $1,400
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tax bill annually but this year will be different thanks to residents allowed to work off a portion of their tax burden instead of paying out of pocket. >> this is a great way because it helps pay your taxes and you have that extra money to do those things that you need to do. >> 20 residents have been accepted so far, trading a variety of odd jobs and services for tax relief. arlene is a greeter at saco's new train station. her husband tags along for the ride, a two-for-one deal. >> 1:00 is the last one of the day. >> participants must be at least 60 and make under $60,00o the abatement is capped at $750 per household. in terms of revenue, the program costs the city about $15,000, a bargain say saco officials. it helps them financially, but i think it is a great experience even more. >> from paintinging equipment
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to filing papers at city hall, residents are turning their talents into city services. >> if you're retired and you're ok and say i have a place to go today. the town needs me, and that's what we're hearing from them. it is not necessarily just the money. it is that the town needs me. >> participants will tell you the true value lies in the building up of the city. chris: the securities and exchange commission says former a.i.g. chief maurice greenburg has agreed to pay a $15 million fine to settle fraud charges. a.i.g. has already paid more than $1.5 billion to fight charges of improper accounting. the government has paid $150 billion in bailout money to a.i.g. is the stimulus working? is cash for clunkers helping? what kind of unemployment numbers will we get friday? the fox all-stars give us
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>> i expect we'll see several hundred thousand jobs lost. i expect that we'll see an uptick in the unemployment rate come tomorrow. chris: that was white house press secretary robert gibbs today getting people ready for some bad economic news. let's bring in the panel. steven hayes of the weekly standard. jennifer loven, chief white house correspondent for the associated press and jeff birnbaum of the washington times. we do get, as gibbs said, steve, the new unemployment numbers for july, tomorrow monk morning, friday morning, and unemployment is up to 10.5
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% and people expect it to go up a couple tepghtsths of a point. we heard last week that recession was leveling off but unemployment going up. how do you expect people to process it? >> i think it is a hard argument for the white house to make. they were smart at this point to get in front of it. christina romer gave a speech today, saying that the stimulus was actually working. they're making an aggressive push, and i think a smart political push to try to say, look, this is all working. you will get this bad news, and it won't look good when you see the unemployment, but it doesn't mean we're not starting to emerge from the recession. chris: jennifer. >> i agree with steve. they spent the whole week, you know, the president had an event earlier this week in elkhart, indiana, which there was a lot of talk about that he was going back to a place he visited early in his presidency and it is doing more poorly now than at the
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beginning of his presidency. vice president biden was out. cabinet members were out. there is this aggressive push to talk about how the stimulus is working, but to be sensitive to summary fact that there is this lagging indicator of jobs, that there is still a lot of pain being felt out in the country with folks who don't have jobs yet and might not for quite some time. >> do you think that's a case in a practical sense, jeff, that the white house can make to voters? unemployment is an indicator that lags. employment will get better. as christina romer said, you can take the antibiotic pill and the fever may spike but that doesn't mean you are not headed in thite direction. >> i think the white house has no choice but to lower expectations because the unemployment numbers coming out tomorrow are going to be bad news but they are also connect that even though there are real signs that the recession is bottoming out, that things will begin to turn around in a purely economic sense soon, none of the
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reasons for that turnaround are truly felt by consumers. we've discussed already unemployment. that's a lagging indicator that. means employment will not improve until the gross domestic product actually begins to grow and grow substantially, 2% or more, and that may not happen until next year. house something also a lagging indicator and people feel the value of their house very personally, and so if housings doesn't improve and won't improve very much, that's a problem. also, income does to not turn around, and so in a political sense, meaning the way consumers feel things, there is no turnaround whatsoever and that is dragging down the president's job approval rating and that's why we see the polls the way they are. chris: steve, on the question of the stimulus, christina romer, the head of the economic advisors said today in a presentation that she thought the stimulus had already made a 2% difference in growth, in g.d.p. that the second quarter it
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contracted -- the economy contracted by 1%. if without the stimulus, it would have contracted by 3%, and she also believes, and add -- or, you know, reduced a decline of 480,000 jobs. are you per persuaded that the stimulus had any effect? >> no, i do not, and i think there are many economists who say it didn't have any effect. there are other economists who say we don't know right now. it is difficult to make a substantive case on the economics that the stimulus has worked. it is not any surprise that white house economists working with christina romer would find that these things did work. it was the least surprising announcement in a long time, but they're smart to make the case. politically, i think it makes sense to make the case, because what we're likely to see with this coming flush of stimulus money, you know, $100 billion per quarter over the next five quarters potentially is some uptick. i mean, you will start to see some upstick. i think the economy is in recovery anyway, and then
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they're going to be able to say, see, we told you it was working. it wasn't obvious then but look at what is happening now, even if the stimulus at that point still has dubious stimulative effects. chris: meanwhile, christina romer raised the possibility that we could have a second stimulus. is that a practical possibility? >> no, for a couple different reasons. the white house isn't interested in fighting that battle in congress. they have many other battles that they want to fight with lawmakers and not spending billions or potentially hundreds of billions more for a stimulus. another reason is because the timing won't work. i mean, as steve talked about, and jeff talked about, the economy is starting to turn around, and some of the economic indicators, it probably will, that those lagging indicators probably will start doing better next wier yeerp, by the time you get a second stimulus, it could potentially be over. chris: we have 30 seconds left in this segment. jeff, i want to ask about the
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cash for clunkers. it looks like whether it is today or tomorrow, it is going to get through, $2 billion more for the programs. some republicans particularly mccain and demint talked about trying to filibuster this, and it might have been an effective tool since they are up against the august recess. why did the g.o.p. cave and say fine, have your cash for clunkers? >> two words -- free money. that's what i think the cash for chunkers is. it is a testament for how skeptical the american public has become to government expansion, that even free money like the cash for clunkers program has enough opposition to it that republicans, the opposition party, was considering even filibustering it, >> but they realized it is far too popular, for up to $4,500 per car, per clunker. that's a huge subsidy that it would turn on its head the politics as we know it if
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politicians, elected representatives actually said no to such a thing. chris: free money. magic words. all right. we have to take a break. the supreme court will have a different look this fall. the panel weighs in on the confirmation of sonia sotomayor and the political
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>> the senate has affirmed that judge sotomayor has the intellect, temperament, the history, the integrity and the independence of mind to ably serve on our nation's highest court. chris: that was presidentññ?ñ?ñ obama this afternoon commanding the senate after it voted to confirm sonia sotomayor as the first hispanic justice to the supreme court. we're back now with our panel.
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so let's put up the numbers that he show how sonia sotomayor did and we'll show you in comparison to the two previous supreme court nominees. she got 68 yeas and 31 nays and the 68 yeas includinged nine republicans who voted for her. now let's look at alito and roberts. alito got 58 yeas including only four democratic votes. roberts, chief justice john roberts got 78 votes including 22 democratic votes, so steve hayes, it looks like that sonia sotomayor got a little bit better bipartisan support than alito but not nearly as muching as roberts. >> right. that's the trend if you look historically going back 15 years, 20 years, you can see that republicans generally defer to democratic president picks and stage less ferocious confirmation hearings than democrats have. what's interesting to me in this case, are republicans, i
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think, questioned her aggressively but resphectfully respectfully. i don't think anyone would say she had a difficult confirmation process, but in the end, they voted in numbers greater they have historically in opposition to her nomination. one of them was a substantive reason. she sounded like a federalist society member, a conservative, stict constructionist, but her history of speeches, mainly, some of her decisions suggest that she is not that certainly, and number two, i think republicans for republicans this is something they will go back and be judged on. >> the politics ran both ways, jennifer, because on the one hand, as steve suggestsing voting for what i think they believe to be a liberal justice could end up hurting them with their conservative base. on the other hand, and you had some senate democrats, especially new jersey democratic senator bob
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menendez saying that hispanics won't forget that the g.o.p. voted 3-1, 31-9, against sotomayor. is there a fallout? republicans have had troubles with the hispanic vote over the last four years. is there trouble that they voted in such numbers against hispanic supreme court justice? >> well, i think we'll have to find out. i think it's hard to tell at this point whether they suffer for those votes. my guess is no, and that's probably the reason that they made the calculation they did to vote against her in such large numbers. there is a sense that this whole confirmation process, and the voting as well is, a little bit about road tests, a practice, if you will, because steve described some republicans' problems with judge sotomayor, and in essence, that's a problem with obama's empathy qualification, that's he's looking for in a judge and i think they wanted to practice their argument against that for the next time when his pick of the justice
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actually could change the ideological balance on the court, which it is not now. >> you know, jeff, you talk about this whole process, i mean, it seems to me that sonia sotomayor, as she presented herself in the court, was almost identical -- i don't know about her speeches or decisions, but as she presented herself during the confirmation hearings was almost identical to alito and roberts. they all kind of said nothing. is there a better way to do this? >> not in the modern era where these nomination herings are warfare. this was relatively modern relative warfare, but the next time will be a bloodbath because the makeup of the court and its substantive findings might very well be changed. not in this case. she is substituting for justice souter who is liberal. in fact, in some ways she may be more conservative because she is pro business. the u.s. chamber of commerce actually supported this nomination, but no, until things change, there will
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never be real answers coming from a nominee for the supreme court. chris: that's it for the panel stay tuned to hear a great composer's lost masterpiece hundreds of years after it was written.
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chris: it's always thrilling when a great work of art is unearthed. hundreds of years after it was created. well, it has happened again. >> wolfgang has added to represent tour. piece identified as childhood creations by the legendary composer. ♪ >> followed by mozart's father that was used for practice. they believe he wrote the pieces when he was 6, 7, maybe 8 years old. ♪